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text=There are several mailing lists available for [[PmWiki]].%0a %0a:[ [[(http://pmichaud.com/lists/)pmwiki-users]] ]: This is a great resource where a very helpful group of people will answer questions and discuss PmWiki development. Traffic is around 20-40 messages a day (on slow days :).\%0a''If you ask a question on the list and it doesn't get answered, don't feel let down. Just'' '''''ask it again'''''. It probably slipped by unnoticed.%0a%0a->Archives are available from:%0a-->http://pmichaud.com/pipermail/pmwiki-users/%0a-->http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user ([[http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user|searchable]])%0a%0a%0a:[ [[(http://pmichaud.com/lists/)pmwiki-announce]] ]: Announcements of new version releases.  The archive is at:%0a-->http://pmichaud.com/pipermail/pmwiki-announce%0a%0a:[ [[(http://pmichaud.com/lists/)pmwiki-users-de]] ]: A mailing list for german-speaking users of PmWiki.  Archived at%0a-->http://pmichaud.com/pipermail/pmwiki-users-de%0a%0a!!! List etiquette and related suggestions%0a%0aThere are many styles for posting to mailing lists (or news groups), some%0aare good, some are bad and others are just plain ... different. PmWiki's%0alists welcome everyone [1] and the list should be as welcoming and accepting%0aenvironment as it can be. What follows below are simply suggestions and%0arequests, '''not''' requirements nor rules. However, it is useful to%0aunderstand that some message styles are less likely of being read and%0aresulting in help.%0a%0a-> ''Manners''%0a--> The social lubricant needed and appreciated for a welcoming environment.%0a%0a-> ''One author, many readers''%0a--> Please make your post quick and easy to read/understand, it will likely%0a    have many readers. Your effort will be appreciated by readers both in%0a    the present and the future - remember that your post is archived!%0a    Additionally, if it is not worth your time to make it easy to read, why%0a    is it worth our time to read it? Or help you?%0a   %0a-> ''Quoting relevant parts''%0a--> When replying, please remove irrelevant parts of the original message%0a    — the original message can always be found in the mail archive!%0a    This is especially true when replying to digest messages...%0a%0a-> ''Inline responses''%0a--> Please place your responses ''inline'' or at the bottom of a reply%0a    in general. There are exceptions, but then please make the response%0a    readable on its own.%0a%0a-> ''Separate ideas, separate messages''%0a--> Please place separate ideas in separate messages. This makes it%0a    easier once people start replying and the message thread grows...%0a%0a-> ''Plain text rather than HTML''%0a--> Please write messages using plain text rather than HTML. If%0a    posting in plain text is inconvenient, we prefer you to post%0a    in HTML rather than not post at all...%0a%0a-> ''Adjust the topic''%0a--> Message threads mutate, it's often a good idea to change the%0a    topic accordingly. Especially when replying to digests. The topic%0a    "Help with ... needed" is much more concise than simply%0a    "Re: pmwiki-users digest, Vol [...]". This also helps some mail%0a    programs keep better track of differen threads.%0a%0a    When replying to a individual person and not the entire list, %0a    please indicate this by changing the topic. Perhaps by simply %0a    removing "[pmwiki-users]" from the topic, or by prepending the%0a    topic with "Off-list: ".%0a%0a* [1] — this section was updated by [[~chr]] after a rather lengthy \%0a  thread regarding ''top-posting'' v.s. ''bottom-posting''. Eventually \%0a  [[~pm]] (the creator of PmWiki) gave his "official" thoughts in this \%0a  [[post->http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user/26531]].%0a%0a%0a!! Changing mail list settings%0a%0aHere are some tips regarding changing the mailing list settings:%0a%0a* Logging in...%0a** First go to [[http://pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users]]%0a   and enter your e-mail address in the field at the bottom of the page,%0a   to the left of the button ''Unsubscribe or edit options''.%0a** Next you need to enter your password. As you've probably forgotten this,%0a   use the button ''Remind'' at the bottom of the page to get a new password.%0a** Finally enter the password you should get momentarily via e-mail.%0a%0a* You can directly go to the options web page through a URI such as the%0a  following:%0a-> [@http://host.pmichaud.com/mailman/options/pmwiki-users/%3cuser>%2540%3cdomain>@]%0a-> where [@%3cuser>@] is everything before the [@@@] in an e-mail address,%0a   and [@%3cdomain>@] is everything after (%0a   For those who wonder, the [@%2540@] in the URI just stands for '[@@@]'.%0a%0a* You can also obtain various help by sending an email to%0a  mailto:pmwiki-users-request@pmichaud.com with the text [@help@] in either%0a  the subject or the body.%0a%0a!! Newsgroups (NNTP)%0aYou may be interested, that the lists are also accessible as newsgroups.%0a%0aThe NNTP server is:%0a* news.gmane.org%0a%0aThe groups are:%0a* gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user%0a* gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.announce%0a* gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user.de%0a%0asee also http://gmane.org%0a%0a%0a
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